Finally, related to the idea of preprint versioning, some people told us they don’t see preprints as real publications (which is somewhat in agreement with the comment on whether or not they can remove older versions). While this point is quite nuanced and still an object of debate, we suggest using the terminology 'posting preprints' as a general way to refer to not-yet-peer-reviewed manuscripts. However, as described above, preprints are permanent once posted, so some refer to them as ‘published’ work.